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General Category => For Sale & Wanted => Topic started by: DownUnderDeville on January 09, 2011, 06:56:27 PM

Title: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: DownUnderDeville on January 09, 2011, 06:56:27 PM
Remember that '76 Talisman at McCormick Auctions that you asked about a little while back? (this one http://www.classic-carauction.com/auction_details.cfm?id=4055)


Well it's back and it's in NZ - it's even in my city!  :yikes:

Don't have anything like that kind of $$$ though.......... :yikes: :yikes: He's obviously looking to make a killing.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Cadillac/FLEETWOOD/auction-345750330.htm
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: trvlr480 on January 09, 2011, 08:10:57 PM
Isn't he stretching the truth just a little with the horsepower and torque numbers?  The 500's didn't have those numbers in '76, did they?  That is what the factory listed in 1970 for a 500 and the factory numbers were not generated the same way they do today.
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Fins on January 09, 2011, 10:09:46 PM
You're killing me DuD. Veeeeeeeery slowly.

And with this cold, I think I wish I was dead.   :'( :'(

Fins
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Carfreak on January 09, 2011, 10:12:39 PM
Do we have a sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy head, fever, wish-I-were-dead emoticon?   :scratchhead:
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: DownUnderDeville on January 10, 2011, 12:33:48 AM
First I've ever seen the robe and pillow. Me like :yeah baby:

I'll take an educated guess and say it owes him NZD$30K what with GST etc etc

He's out to make 10 grand I reckon, minimum.
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: DownUnderDeville on January 10, 2011, 07:04:33 AM
Here's the auction results. http://www.classic-carauction.com/auction_results_list.cfm?auctionnbr=49 ;D

He got it for USD$8610
Add 5% that the auction house charges @$430
Shipping at about USD$1800 (last I checked 2 or 3 months ago)
Comes to USD$10840

Convert @75c comes to NZD$14453

Add MAF & Customs ('bout $500) 15 grand

Add GST @ 15%, GRAND TOTAL NZD$17250. And he wants $39,500 :jack:, :jack: and  :jack:

If the car's as good as what he's making it out to be in his ad, it would've only taken him to $20K tops to get it on the road, as was the case with my car.

Now only one question remains - should I hassle this guy or what? :Muttley:

Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: trvlr480 on January 10, 2011, 08:26:46 AM
Finn's.  Get a bottle of Solray powdered Vitamin C.  There are 5000 mgms in each tsp.  Get some Solray Zinc.  Get some Oil of Oregano.  Get some colloidal silver.

Take the Vitamin C every hour mixed with something like water or orange juice until you get the OD signs for C.  That's the "trots".  Then back off on it.  But keep taking it.  Maybe every two to four hours.

Follow the directions on the other three.  You'll lose the cold in 24 to 48 hours.

That store bought cold crap just covers up the symptoms and prolongs the cold.
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Fins on January 10, 2011, 10:57:10 AM
Taking 2000iu of 'C' every 4 hours. No store bought crap. Loaded up on Svedka and grapefruit juice,  :Cold Beer:  and feeling better.

But, I missed a concert yesterday that I have been waiting for since Thanksgiving.   :curse: :taz: :dwarf:  That pissed me off big time. Had the day all planned with my wife.....attend the concert, then change inhto some jeans and t-shirts and walk on the pristine white sand beaches in Naples and watch the sun go down. Then off to dinner up the road for a steak.

And this blessed flu ruined it all.   :jack:

Fins
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: guidematic on January 10, 2011, 01:28:18 PM
Quote from: Big Fins on January 10, 2011, 10:57:10 AM
And this blessed flu ruined it all.   :jack:

Fins

What, you didn't get your flu shot? Don't you know they are safe and effective?  :ha ha:

Anyway, that really sucks. And I hope you are getting over it.

Mike
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: guidematic on January 10, 2011, 01:31:30 PM
Quote from: trvlr480 on January 09, 2011, 08:10:57 PM
Isn't he stretching the truth just a little with the horsepower and torque numbers?  The 500's didn't have those numbers in '76, did they?  That is what the factory listed in 1970 for a 500 and the factory numbers were not generated the same way they do today.

He's quoting the factory numbers for the 1970 500. The one and only high compression 500.

The 1976 numbers were 190 and 360. SAE Net, of coarse.

Mike
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: EXCRUISERGUY on January 10, 2011, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: DownUnderDeville on January 10, 2011, 07:04:33 AM

Now only one question remains - should I hassle this guy or what?



Your good at it, go ahead. :pot:

Quote from: guidematic on January 10, 2011, 01:28:18 PM
What, you didn't get your flu shot? Don't you know they are safe and effective?  :ha ha:


Yea, nothing like a good dose of mercury to kill a virus.

GJ
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: DownUnderDeville on January 11, 2011, 08:28:27 PM
I've asked him to send me a shot of the body tag. If I don't hear from him by week's end, I'll go see it for myself.


QuoteYour good at it, go ahead.
;D One tries one's best.

Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: trvlr480 on January 11, 2011, 09:40:35 PM
Quote from: guidematic on January 10, 2011, 01:31:30 PM
He's quoting the factory numbers for the 1970 500. The one and only high compression 500.

The 1976 numbers were 190 and 360. SAE Net, of coarse.

Mike

That's what I thought.  I guess he figures that since he's asking an inflated price he can inflate the facts and down there in OZ no one will know the difference.
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: DownUnderDeville on January 11, 2011, 09:52:16 PM
Here's the tag.....

AM6 - same as mine.

Gonna try to decode the rest tonight.

A quick look says it used to be a triple white Fleetwood with blue carpet.

He should've left it. :No:
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Fins on January 12, 2011, 12:42:45 AM
Easy there big guy. The Talisman package was an option. Sometimes, dealer installed, depending on the buyer. It was really only an interior package. The rest of the car wasn't any different from any other Fleetwood, sans the script.

Get all the facts before we railroad him into the ground.

Fins
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: DownUnderDeville on January 12, 2011, 01:34:05 AM
That's exactly what I'm trying to do, chief. :yes:

The "022" denotes white leather with blue carpet, which it obviously no longer has.
AM6 I've already mentioned

Would a Talisman have its option code on the cowl tag? I would have thought so. :scratchhead:

Here's a reply from someone on the 74-76 Talisman yahoo group: (http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/74-76Talisman)

RE: [74-76Talisman] Re: Strange Talisman for sale in New Zealand


This particular talismanified FB was on Ebay in March of 2007 and at that time
it was in the LA area and already had a Talisman interior. I don't recall what
the story was behind the interior swap though.

Stephan



Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Fins on January 12, 2011, 01:46:02 AM
DuD... Not sure of the plate particulars. Someone more schooled on that could fill in here.   :chin:

But there is more than one thing or two that doesn't look, (smell) right about this car.

Working at Cadillac in these years, I don't recall White as a standard factory color for a Talisman. Neither did I see Sapphire Blue, but the Doc came up with my dream car in his town.   :yeah baby:

Most, if not all, were black or dark blue with matching interiors.

But if I win the Lottery, I'll be calling Doc for that Sapphire Blue one, no matter the price.

Fins
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: DownUnderDeville on January 12, 2011, 02:29:43 AM
So how much is this Sapphire Blue job then? :chin:

I wanna see photos!! :yeah baby:

(I'm gonna ned the lottery too, but one can dream....)
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Fins on January 12, 2011, 02:44:53 AM
There are pics of it somewhere on this site. It was gorgeous too. The people wanted $26,000 USD or something like that near 2 years ago. I offered a pristine Eldorado and cash, but they came up with a pristine Eldorado sitting right next to the Talisman. So no deal there.

I'm sure they still have the car. Doc hasn't said yea or nay on it. But I'm sure they wouldn't budge on the price. It's going to be one of those that rots off of the frame before they realize they should have sold it when it was worth something.

How about it Doc......Are you paying attention here?

Fins
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: DownUnderDeville on January 12, 2011, 03:09:52 AM
26 large.......... :yikes:

Then again, the pretend one over here is dearer than that...........

QuoteIt's going to be one of those that rots off of the frame before they realize they should have sold it when it was worth something.

Ah...one of  those........ :No:
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Fins on January 12, 2011, 03:24:56 AM
I've been searching his posts since he joined. Aside of laughing my ass off at some of them, I've been through 56 pages so far and nothing.

Anyone want to help or give a search term suggestion?

I've gone from #190-246. Booooooooring. But that Talisman is to die for.   :yeah baby:

Fins
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Carfreak on January 12, 2011, 03:28:15 AM
About 20 years ago a friend had a 74(?) Talisman that was an orangish color.  Absolutely gorgeous. 

He's still kicking himself for selling it.
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Carfreak on January 12, 2011, 03:30:23 AM
Quote from: Big Fins on January 12, 2011, 03:24:56 AM
I've been searching his posts since he joined. Aside of laughing my ass off at some of them, I've been through 56 pages so far and nothing.

Anyone want to help or give a search term suggestion?

I've gone from #190-246. Booooooooring. But that Talisman is to die for.   :yeah baby:

Fins

WTH are you looking for?

http://cadillacmisfits.com/index.php?topic=688.0 (http://cadillacmisfits.com/index.php?topic=688.0)

That search took like, 10 seconds.
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: DownUnderDeville on January 12, 2011, 03:33:35 AM
Got it.

:yeah baby: :yeah baby:

Godammit man, I'm getting obsessed here........

Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Fins on January 12, 2011, 03:43:06 AM
Is that car something or what. I'd still consider breaking the bank for it.

Fins
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: DownUnderDeville on January 12, 2011, 03:50:08 AM
As would I.

Except I have the small matter of postage and tax to consider. And that's what would kill it. :'( :'(

Unless I get some Serious Moolah for Jennifer, that is.
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Fins on January 12, 2011, 04:05:06 AM
Go back to the first post in the thread DuD that you put up. Mike called it, back in the thread the Doc put up. 1974 had the only rear workstation. 75&76 had only front workstations.

Also read the original ad of the white one you found. It states...."Talisman interior added." I'd love to see the body plate on that one, along with the paint codes.

But before being totally sure on the colors I would like to see what was available. I never remember seeing a white Talisman....ever.

Anything can be ordered, and anything can be painted. But this  :jack: is calling this car original.

Fins
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Fins on January 12, 2011, 04:28:58 AM
Quote from: DownUnderDeville on January 12, 2011, 03:33:35 AM
Got it.

:yeah baby: :yeah baby:

Godammit man, I'm getting obsessed here........



I think I'll go cry myself to sleep now, and wait for the Doc to show in the morning and tell me the car is still available.

I think about it all the time.  To have that car would be better than sex anytime.

Fins
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: guidematic on January 12, 2011, 04:58:17 AM

I had a chance to buy a triple gold '74 Talisman back in the 80's. A customer of ours had one and wanted to sell it. He was asking $2K for it, but I think it would have gone for much less. 2 reasons why I did not buy it, first cash was very scarce for me and it was full of bondo. But the interior was perfect. And I drove that car on many occasions. What a treat.

But I still think about that car and the what if's had I bought it.

Mike

Mike
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Fins on January 12, 2011, 05:01:12 AM
Yup. Here was your post on it.

Oh man, I'd off my '70 in a heartbeat for a '74 Talisman. They are the coolest of the 70's Cadillacs. Ya know, the '74 is the only year with the front AND rear consoles.

We had a customer back in the 80's with one. Triple gold. I worked on that car a fair bit, and drove it a few times. There is nothing as decadant as a Talisman. Pure comfort. But the car was a bondo buggy. He had it for sale and I didn't buy if because of all the bondo. I think he sold it because both him and the car just disappeared.

Mike

Fins
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: guidematic on January 12, 2011, 05:07:43 AM

Ueah!!  :yes:

Mike
Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: DownUnderDeville on January 12, 2011, 07:38:11 AM
QuoteI never remember seeing a white Talisman....ever.

According to automotivemileposts.com, white wasn't available for a Talisman.  :chin:

Well, it's certainly unique, if nothing else, then.

Title: Re: Hey Fins! Lookee here......
Post by: Geoff on January 12, 2011, 02:45:12 PM
"To have that car would be better than sex anytime."

Damn!  Now I want one!

:yes: