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Title: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Geoff on December 01, 2012, 06:39:43 PM
I am soon to take my '73 Coupe deVille parts car to the scrap yard, there are a few parts left that might be of use to someone but not much.  No engine or tranny, no front seat and the mid-body trim is gone.  I do have most of the bottom stainless trim, the driveshaft, the complete Twilight Sentinel setup including the on/off/sensitivity switch, an AM/FM stereo radio with integral 8 track player.  Have not tested the radio, although I can if desired, but I have no way of testing the 8 track portion.  Plenty of nuts, bolts and some Cadillac specific hardware and wire connectors that could be cut out.  Have fender skirts also which are fair to good.  Good inner front fender liners --- none of it pretty, most is driver quality.  Also have a fair grille and some bumper parts that could be used as is but to be nice will need rechrome.
Contact me with questions by answering this post or PM.  

Edit:  Actually I DO have a TH 400 tranny but it will need a rebuild.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Carfreak on December 01, 2012, 07:15:52 PM
Did you ask @ the Mobo or MCLC?   

Tasshole might want you to do him a favor and salvage every nut, bolt, washer, etc then ship it to him.   :Muttley:
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Geoff on December 01, 2012, 11:47:00 PM
 ;D  Yes I did put it on the CLC and MCLC.  Nothing on the MCLC yet, have not checked the CLC.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: classic cruiser on December 02, 2012, 01:17:45 AM
Does it have a cruise control turn signal stalk? If so I need it.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Geoff on December 02, 2012, 01:33:28 AM
No it does not, sorry.  Strangely enough as popular as Cruise was even back then neither the Caribou nor the parts car had that option, eventhough they both had the Twilight Sentinel option which I consider a big zero.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: guidematic on December 02, 2012, 01:03:25 PM

The Sentinal goodies would be of value to someone. Particularly the module. Thay are known to go bad.

Mike
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Fins on December 02, 2012, 01:09:45 PM
I'm sure trvlr might speak up. That's what he has.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: trvlr480 on December 03, 2012, 03:41:49 AM
I really don't need anything at this point in time and money is tight right now on top of that.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Fins on December 03, 2012, 11:12:17 AM
When you have the time, there is no money. When you have the money, there is no time.   :pull hair:
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: guidematic on December 03, 2012, 02:04:46 PM

Ueah, but I seem to be suffering from both afflictions right now.

If the Sentinal modules were the same as my '70 I would take them for spares. If I had some $$$. Remember, I scored the assembly from a car in the wreckers that was sitting there for possibly decades. And it worked when I installed it.

Mike
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: trvlr480 on December 03, 2012, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Fins on December 03, 2012, 11:12:17 AM
When you have the time, there is no money. When you have the money, there is no time.   :pull hair:

Yep.  The only thing I have really wanted to get for the Caddy is the piece of sheet metal that bolts to the front of the right wheel well.  The inner rubber apron lays over the top of it.  It keeps all the water and gunk from constantly pressure washing the underside of the battery box and the wiring to the headlights and marker lights.   It also acts as a support (for lack of a better term) for the rubber apron in there.  Mine rusted off years ago and I doubt there are many left out there in good shape.  The one on the left side is in good shape though.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Geoff on December 04, 2012, 03:25:16 AM
Hmmmm, I'll have to look and see if the parts car has one in decent shape, trvlr, you may have it for the cost of shipping if you like if I have a decent one.  Might take a few days to find it though, work place is a mess right now but I'm slowly getting it back in shape.

:pool:
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: trvlr480 on December 04, 2012, 05:18:45 AM
Quote from: Geoff on December 04, 2012, 03:25:16 AM
Hmmmm, I'll have to look and see if the parts car has one in decent shape, trvlr, you may have it for the cost of shipping if you like if I have a decent one.  Might take a few days to find it though, work place is a mess right now but I'm slowly getting it back in shape.

:pool:

OK, Goeff.  It's held on with two or three bolts on the front of the right wheel well.  Let me know.   Thanks.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Geoff on December 04, 2012, 06:07:51 PM
trvlr,

Just to be sure, this is the piece you need, correct?
 
Held on with 2 bolts and it is stapled to the front side of the rubber shield.  My plan is to cut the staples and remove the piece from what's left of the rubber, blast it and shoot some undercoat on it.  I will include some heavy stainless steel aircraft safety wire (I've got a bunch of it) that you can cut into smaller lengths and use as "staples".  That is how I affixed mine to my new fender rubber shields.

If that all is satisfactory, PM me your shipping address and I will let you know the shipping charges and get it sent to you.

Geoff    
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Denrep on December 05, 2012, 01:10:04 AM
Ueagh Geoff, that 8-track... if it has a face that jives with the rest of the Cadillac instrument panel,  rather than having sort of a generic fits-all look, I'd be alive for that.
In other words, a face appearance that's similar to an OE  Cadillac AM-FM.

However, I'm not so sure that an 8-track was built specifically for Cad,  :chin: that is, with a face that actually matched.
Since I've been checking the face detail, all the ones I've seen have a "generic" look, despite having been installed, if not by the factory,  then at least in the car's dealership days.

Thanks in advance for checkin' it
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Geoff on December 05, 2012, 03:18:10 AM
I'll get a picture of it tomorrow for you but it is a Cadillac AM/FM stereo radio with an 8 track player, it was an option.

From this site ----
http://automotivemileposts.com/cadillac/cadi1973optionalequipment.html

AM/FM Stereo Radio with Integral Eight Track Tape Player ($416)

There was also a dealer installed stand alone 8 track player but the radio was factory installed.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Denrep on December 05, 2012, 04:23:48 AM
Right, it was available,  but the ones I've seen look like a Chevy 8-track stuck in the dash, with a definite mismatch from the rest of the dash, or an OE Cad radio. And now I've looked at so many that I'm beginning to believe that's just how it was.

Maybe that's all you got with a $400 8-track in a Cadillac?   :confused2:
That's (was) alotta jack for a radio!  :screwy:


We'll see what Geoff comes up with.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: guidematic on December 05, 2012, 05:18:40 AM

Those big Cadillac radios wouldn't fit in a Chevy dash. They had a big heat sink on the side of them that interfered with the dash on the Chevy. I know, I modified a couple to fit into a '75 Impala and '76 Bel Air dash. These radios also weighed in at about 5 pounds.

Mike
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: trvlr480 on December 05, 2012, 09:05:41 AM
Quote from: Geoff on December 04, 2012, 06:07:51 PM
trvlr,

Just to be sure, this is the piece you need, correct?
 
Held on with 2 bolts and it is stapled to the front side of the rubber shield.  My plan is to cut the staples and remove the piece from what's left of the rubber, blast it and shoot some undercoat on it.  I will include some heavy stainless steel aircraft safety wire (I've got a bunch of it) that you can cut into smaller lengths and use as "staples".  That is how I affixed mine to my new fender rubber shields.

If that all is satisfactory, PM me your shipping address and I will let you know the shipping charges and get it sent to you.

Geoff    

If I remember correctly.  It's been a long time since I looked under there.  Yes, that's it.  Now all I have to do is figure out how to PM you.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Fins on December 05, 2012, 12:25:09 PM
Trvlr. Click on Geoffs' name in any post he made. His profile will come up. At the bottom center in the additional options box you'll see a message that says PM this member. Just click that and it will take you to a text box that looks just like a reply to a post box. Type out your message and hit send.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: guidematic on December 05, 2012, 02:08:04 PM

Or just click on the little square box like balloon under his avatar right on the post. It will take you straight to the PM window.

Mike
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Geoff on December 05, 2012, 02:38:45 PM
I received trvlr's PM, thanks.  

Here are pictures of the AM/FM 8 track radio for Denrep.  The chrome is pretty good but needs cleaning (some minor pitting), the narrow chrome trim around the dial numbers may or may not clean up.

Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Geoff on December 05, 2012, 02:42:46 PM
Here is a picture of the '73 AM/FM Stereo radio in the Caribou, basically the same looking as the 8 tracker --- except the dial window is a little different.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Denrep on December 05, 2012, 07:13:36 PM
Ueah Geoff, To be sure I'll compare with the ones I've been messing with, but I think that's the same "mismatch" I was talking about.

I'd say that settles it though, the OE Cadillac 8-track definitely has an afterthought look to it, at least to me.

What I've found is that the 8-track is now such an oddity and focal point that's so closely studied  that it quickly goes from "gee wiz, an 8-track" to, "...oh you put that in there out of something else." And if I say  "no, that's the way that Cadillac matched the rest of the panel..." I'll get the dice roll every time.  :rotfl:

Still looks like a nice piece.
Thanks for posting the pics.

Good Luck
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Geoff on December 05, 2012, 08:43:33 PM
Yer welcome.   ;D
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Fins on December 06, 2012, 01:52:51 AM
Okay, I have to stick my 1 1/2 cents in here. Every Cadillac radio that I have ever owned of have even seen has had the wreath on the volume and tuning knobs. I've never seen plain jane knobs like that on a Cadillac radio.

The Eldorados always had the gold highlighted wreaths on the knobs.  I'm going from about 69 and forward. Nothing with the 2 knobs paired side by side.

Why do I feel that someone out there is going to destroy this post with thoughts other than radios?  :chin:
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Denrep on December 06, 2012, 02:04:36 AM
But ueagh, not taking away from Geoff's 8-track, we know it's an original Cad piece, but ain't that a Mickey Mouse face when compared to his reply #22 radio? That's what I meant with reply #14 and 16.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Fins on December 06, 2012, 02:08:46 AM
Ueah, but, what else are you going to do when the face has to open to accept the tape. It has to be simple. Can't have a complicated swinging door. Even the dial indicator was a light prism so they wouldn't have to have oddball wiring in the faceplate.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Denrep on December 06, 2012, 02:16:28 AM
Quote from: Fins on December 06, 2012, 02:08:46 AM
Ueah, but, what else are you going to do when the face has to open to accept the tape. It has to be simple. Can't have a complicated swinging door. Even the dial indicator was a light prism so they wouldn't have to have oddball wiring in the faceplate.

Agreed on the complicated "logistics" of through-the-face tape, Fins, but the color font and style of the face isn't even close to matching the rest of the instrument panel. I'm almost sure it was picked up in a raid on some other division's parts bin.

As I mentioned, with the first few I looked at closely I thought that they were probably a "will-fit" radio that someone had installed, but then I kept seeing more of the same.

Especially now with Geoff's OE sticker, it's looking like it is what it was.
To me, they stick out like a sore thumb, far shy from what $400 in a top-line car should have bought.

How much is that today? $1500.00  :doh:  :rotfl:

Good Luck
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Fins on December 06, 2012, 02:27:08 AM
Match it with the font on Buick radios. There is your answer.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Denrep on December 06, 2012, 02:27:47 AM
Is that what it jives with, Buick?
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Fins on December 06, 2012, 02:31:22 AM
Not 100% sur, but looky at it. Pont and Chev were short and squatty, with a wide font to the numerals. I'm looking at a Motor Repair manual. Not the best source of info, but it has pics to it.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Denrep on December 06, 2012, 02:40:46 AM
Quote from: Denrep on December 06, 2012, 02:16:28 AM
How much is that today? $1500.00  :doh:  :rotfl:  

Sorry Charlie, try over $1600.00 !  :yikes:

Quote from: http://stats.areppim.com
Your US Dollar Conversion:

Thursday, 6 December 2012

The deflator index for 1973 is 28.136 and for 2012 it is 115.167 (US Dollar Implicit Price Deflators for Gross Domestic Product 1929-2012, 2005=100, BEA). It follows that, with numbers rounded to two decimals:

400.00 US Dollars of 1973 are worth 1,637.29 US Dollars of 2012.
 


 :whoo-hoo:  If that won't buy some double Martini lunches :ha ha:  :rotfl:
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Fins on December 06, 2012, 02:44:51 AM
OMG. Denrep's been hangin' with the Engineers too long.   :yikes:
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Carfreak on December 06, 2012, 02:47:17 AM
Quote from: EZ on July 18, 2011, 01:24:17 AM
Dude.  The Engineers in the group never sleep.  They stay awake at night fact checking everything you write so they can correct you on every detail.  :shh:  It's futile to resist.  Just accept the fact that there are some people so anal that everything has to be correct..........even on an old Cadillac forum with 400 cartoon emoticons at the top.


(I'm waiting to see which one actually counts the emoticons......... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:)
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: guidematic on December 06, 2012, 06:05:32 AM

And I bet you still get as big a thrill by sticking your finger in the dial as you did back in the early 70's when they first came out. Right?

Mike
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Fins on December 06, 2012, 12:29:52 PM
How did you know?  :chin:  That was one of the first things I did with the Eldorado. Stick my finger in the tape deck.   :taz:
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Jon on December 06, 2012, 01:50:44 PM
I could make some comment to you two about ages and newfangled inventions.  But I think you've already figured it out.
Let me guess you did the same with VCR's?
:hive:
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: guidematic on December 06, 2012, 02:10:41 PM

  :yes:

And can you imagine the disappointment with the advent of CD players?

Now all we need is a pic of Denrep sticking his finger in an 8-track player.

Mike
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Jon on December 06, 2012, 02:21:08 PM
Since cartridge receiving equipment (8 track, cassette, VCR, Nintendo...) was all around us when I came into the picture,  it didn't seem fancy or special.  But when CD's came out and you had this little tray that would slide out and present you with a place to put your disk,  now that was fun to play with!
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Fins on December 06, 2012, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Jon on December 06, 2012, 01:50:44 PM
I could make some comment to you two about ages and newfangled inventions.  But I think you've already figured it out.
Let me guess you did the same with VCR's?
:hive:

:yes:   :finger2:   :hi:

Quote from: Jon on December 06, 2012, 02:21:08 PM
Since cartridge receiving equipment (8 track, cassette, VCR, Nintendo...) was all around us when I came into the picture,  it didn't seem fancy or special.  But when CD's came out and you had this little tray that would slide out and present you with a place to put your disk,  now that was fun to play with!

Disc? Disc? What disc?  :scratchhead:  I thought that was a cocktail holder.   ;D
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Geoff on December 06, 2012, 02:37:18 PM
Well, there goes my parts thread all shot to hell.   :icon_OO:

:Muttley:
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: Jon on December 06, 2012, 02:50:05 PM
Well, I might as well change the direction again.
Hey Mike,  I was wondering when would be a good time to sit down at pick your brain over a couple beers. I've been approached by GM and I have a few things I want to figure out about the official GM repair side of things.
Title: Re: '73 Coupe deVille parts.
Post by: guidematic on December 06, 2012, 03:18:03 PM

Well, I'll be away this weekend, last weekend at the cabin before the grounds close up for a couple of months. If you want to trek there, it would be a good place to sit and chat....

I'll be home next weekend, though. E-mail me and we can set something up.

Mike