Cadillac Misfits

General Category => For Sale & Wanted => Topic started by: Keeper on November 30, 2011, 08:07:23 PM

Title: Another Gift
Post by: Keeper on November 30, 2011, 08:07:23 PM
Rip the roof off fill it in and have some fun.Cheap enough.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-Cadillac-Eldorado-White-Hard-Top-/260904410383?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cbf1d5d0f#ht_500wt_977
Title: Re: Another Gift
Post by: ST Dog on December 01, 2011, 02:57:25 AM
Too bad it's not a '68...

I wonder though, with <70k miles, what's up with the engine?
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The engine does need some work and a possibly rebuild or overhaul.
Title: Re: Another Gift
Post by: Carfreak on December 01, 2011, 03:01:04 AM
Quote from: ST Dog on December 01, 2011, 02:57:25 AM

Too bad it's not a '68...


Ueah!   '68 is a much better car.  Of course, that's just my opinion.


Quote from: ST Dog on December 01, 2011, 02:57:25 AM

I wonder though, with <70k miles, what's up with the engine?


Its a 429!!!!   Ooops, another opinion.   ;D
Title: Re: Another Gift
Post by: ST Dog on December 01, 2011, 03:14:34 AM
Quote from: CarFreak on December 01, 2011, 03:01:04 AM
Ueah!   '68 is a much better car.  Of course, that's just my opinion.


Its a 429!!!!   Ooops, another opinion.   ;D

Well the 472 is why I'd prefer a '68.
Oh, and the ease of a 500 swap.  :devil:
Title: Re: Another Gift
Post by: guidematic on December 01, 2011, 01:19:50 PM

A reason that I also prefer the '68.

Mike
Title: Re: Another Gift
Post by: Keeper on December 01, 2011, 02:53:01 PM
67 is a better car cause no expense was spared.Yes the 429 had its issues but
the 3:21 final drive with the switch pitch trans,nothing like it.Just the 2 bottom bolts
on the bellhouse needed drilling was all it took to shoehorn the 500 in.My first
car was a 67 and all the rest I have had over the years have been 68's,now
I am back in a 67.Most would say 69 is better cause the simple brakes to 78.
Title: Re: Another Gift
Post by: guidematic on December 01, 2011, 03:02:40 PM

They both have their better points. Some aspecrs were cheapened a bit for '68. But the switch Pitch in the '67 is certainly one of the better things. That trans in a '68 would have been awesome. Especially with the huge torque output of the 472.

I'd love to have a switch pitch in my '70. It would really move out with that.

Mike
Title: Re: Another Gift
Post by: Russ on December 01, 2011, 03:46:23 PM
Ok, what's the Switch pitch?
Title: Re: Another Gift
Post by: EZ on December 01, 2011, 04:16:51 PM
There should be nothing wrong with the 429 with only 68,000 miles on it.  Mine had 65,000
miles on her when I tore it down.  The thing looked like brand new!!  ST Dog can tell ya, he saw
the pictures.  Everyone on the Cadillac Power forum told me they would even re-use the bearings.

I bet the guy selling it is a non-mechanic and hasn't a clue what's wrong.  Could be a dead battery
or needs a water pump.  Something most of us could change in our sleep.
Title: Re: Another Gift
Post by: guidematic on December 01, 2011, 04:57:11 PM
Quote from: pyro on December 01, 2011, 03:46:23 PM
Ok, what's the Switch pitch?

A variable angle stator in the convertor. Bigger throttle applications will switch the pitch of the stator blades to a more aggressive angle for more torque multiplication. Then they will drop back to a less aggressive angle for regular cruising. The result is a very aggressive acceleration curve That makes the 429 seem to have even more power than it does. The 429, if I remember correctly, has 480 lb/ft of torque. The 472 has 525 and the 500 has 550. Imagine what these much greater torque outputs would do with a switch pitch.

Mike
Title: Re: Another Gift
Post by: Russ on December 02, 2011, 03:57:08 AM
Quote from: guidematic on December 01, 2011, 04:57:11 PM
A variable angle stator in the convertor. Bigger throttle applications will switch the pitch of the stator blades to a more aggressive angle for more torque multiplication. Then they will drop back to a less aggressive angle for regular cruising. The result is a very aggressive acceleration curve That makes the 429 seem to have even more power than it does. The 429, if I remember correctly, has 480 lb/ft of torque. The 472 has 525 and the 500 has 550. Imagine what these much greater torque outputs would do with a switch pitch.

Mike

If it was so great, why only one year application?  :screwy:
Title: Re: Another Gift
Post by: ST Dog on December 02, 2011, 04:09:12 AM
Quote from: pyro on December 02, 2011, 03:57:08 AM
If it was so great, why only one year application?  :screwy:

1) it was used for several years (I forget which now) across the GM lines.

2) '67 was the only years for it in the FWD Eldo, which was new for '67.
3) It was unnecessary with the 472, so they dropped the unneeded expense in '68.
Title: Re: Another Gift
Post by: guidematic on December 02, 2011, 05:47:47 AM

Cadillac and Buick used it from 1964-67.

And yes, since the 472 had 55 lb/ft torque than the 429, it really wasn't necessary, but it would have been really nice!

Mike