It's sure different........
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Cadillac-Pierre-Cardin-Evolution-1-/280802122178?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item41611c59c2
Did he paint his house to match the interior? Or did he do the interior to match the house? :scratchhead:
I can get past most of it, but those headlamps and surrounds look downright amateurish.
Mike
QuoteThis is a 1983 Cadillac Evolution 1 Convertible designed by Pierre Cardin. It was ordered by GM in 1983. . .
GM ordered this car and kept it as a display vehicle from 1983 until 1986. . . .
Why, was it used as evidence in a defamation case or something? :scratchhead:
Maybe they were amused at some opf the lengths some so-called designers would go to deface their creations?
Mike
The badge on the hood looks like a guy with his head up his arse. :yes:
Quote from: davecdv on January 10, 2012, 06:03:31 AM
The badge on the hood looks like a guy with his head up his arse. :yes:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Look at the Ram insignia. It resembles the female reproductive organs.
:scratchhead: :chin:
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More like his head up someone's arse. :yes:
Mike
This one. :doh:
Quote from: Fins on January 10, 2012, 11:12:41 AM
Look at the Ram insignia. It resembles the female reproductive organs.
Wasn't that one of the reasons for the Edsel's failure?
That to me would be a benefit. :Muttley:
When he says GM ordered it,I am positive some Beverly Hills dealer ordered it and it sat there for those few years and that is why he thinks it was on display! It also has front bumper pushed up,like the geezer ran into something.
Looked pretty good to me all but the grill and headlight area. Looked too much like a Monte Carlo or something.
I think the designer was going for the "less is more" approach. The rear of the car came out very well but the simplistic
front grill area looks amaturish at best.
Quote from: DownUnderDeville on January 10, 2012, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: Fins on January 10, 2012, 11:12:41 AM
Look at the Ram insignia. It resembles the female reproductive organs.
Wasn't that one of the reasons for the Edsel's failure?
Wonder why that fella has a smile on his face?
Mike
At least one would-be buyer thinks it's worth 16 big ones.
And at least one could-be seller thinks it's worth more. :doh:
Guido musta' hit it big at the casino.
:Muttley:
Ueagh, where have we seen this Mystery Grille, and bumper, before? :chin:
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Inverted Chevelle? :scratchhead:
Man, that front end really does look home made.
I was expecting some trick concealed-headlight arrangement or some such.
That car is missing the front insert. This is what it is suppost to look like.
I can't wairt to hear what Fins sees now.
:Muttley:
He's due for another ink blot test. :rotfl:
I'm still busy hurling. :puke:
When I was working in Cali I had seen one of these & I have to say the work that done was top notch & very well put together in every way. I like the look of these eldo's a lot better then some of the other "custom jobs" that are out there. Having said that, it could be worse....it could be this!!
(http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy162/themadwacker_1/04.jpg)
There you go with those horrible styling clichés.
Mike
Sixteen bones on the table, seller's holding out for two more. :Sweating:
So if the seller drops reverse does that lock the high bidder in? :chin:
Or would the bidder now have to "accept" the lowered reserve, on a bid previously declined as too low?
I mean what buyer wants to get "pumped" bidding against the house, to then have the house back up when there are no competitive bids? That's not an auction. :no rules:
Quote from: Denrep on January 13, 2012, 03:51:08 PM
So if the seller drops reverse does that lock the high bidder in? :chin:
Or would the bidder now have to "accept" the lowered reserve, on a bid previously declined as too low?
Yes, if the reserve is dropped, then the high bidder would have to accept the lower reserve to be considered the buyer if that makes sense.
Quote from: Denrep on January 13, 2012, 03:51:08 PM
So if the seller drops reverse does that lock the high bidder in? :chin:
Or would the bidder now have to "accept" the lowered reserve, on a bid previously declined as too low?
Since the bidder didn't know the reserve when they bid, changes to a lower reserve should not matter to them.
The bidder already accepted the price by making the bid.
Only issue I see is if a seller raising a reserve after someone beat it, and that's not allowed.
Quote from: CarFreak on January 13, 2012, 05:06:18 PM. . .Yes, if the reserve is dropped, then the high bidder would have to accept the lower reserve to be considered the buyer if that makes sense.
That makes sense and would be fair. If the reserve drops after the bid is first not accepted, then the bid should becomes a negotiable offer, rather than a commitment to buy.
Quote from: ST Dog on January 13, 2012, 05:25:43 PM
Since the bidder didn't know the reserve when they bid, changes to a lower reserve should not matter to them.
The bidder already accepted the price by making the bid. . . .
But see how that isn't fair to the bidder, to be commited for days without the seller (consignor) also being commited?
Now the bidder is tied up for days on a "maybe" and could be passing on other Gutitomobiles because the bidder doesn't want to end up with two of 'em. With these terms, the Guido's owner can esentially use the high-bidder's own commitment with a good-faith bid against the bidder himself, to try to "knock off" the bidder, with no downside risk to the consignor/seller.
At many sales, if a bid is taken contingent on the seller's acceptance later, then the bid converts to a negotiation status, which either bidder or seller can pass on; although the high bidder has an option to accept at the stated reserve price. That's more fair, because a greedy -for lack of a better term- consignor has to take some some risk by insisting on a higher price than open competitive bidding would generate. Also the bidder is freed to move on and try to buy other items, without fear of later being "stuck" with more than she wants.
Good Luck
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/lowering-reserve.html
Lowering or removing your reserve price
Lowering your reserve price
If you lower the reserve price below the high bidder's maximum bid, the high bidder's maximum bid is lowered to $1.00 below the new reserve price. Bidders are notified of the new reserve price by email and must bid again to confirm interest in the item. The high bidder must bid again at or above the new reserve price.
Removing your reserve price
If you remove the reserve price, the reserve price is lowered to $1.00 above the current high bid. Bidders are notified by email, and must bid again to confirm interest in the item. The next bid that is placed will meet the new reserve price. This is done to confirm that the high bidder is still interested in the item.
Within eBay Motors vehicle categories, reserve prices can be lowered on listings with less than 12 hours left in the auction.
That's fair enough...
Except... If high-bidder passes on the lowered reserve, the bidding possibly has been "jumped" to the level of the restart amount without a sincere bid to justify it. So further bidding essentially could be against a seller-set reserve and not actual competitive biding. :scratchhead:
Makes me wonder if some "listers" place an unrealistically high reserve with the intent of dropping it when bidding seems maximized? :chin:
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Anyway, looks like reverse is off now on the Guidomobile.
"...I have sixteen three
sixteen three is bid
not enough at sixteen three
She's honey for the money
One owner and a two-toner
sixteen three won't buy
need sixteen four
sixteen three you're not in
Sixteen three, would'ya go sixteen four?
SIXTEEN Four?
sixteen four is bid!
Sixteen four I have!
I HAVE sixteen four!
sixteen three are you still in?
Sixteen three you're out
sixteen four, sixteen four is bid...
Not enough at sixteen four...
Sixteen four won't buy.
sixteen four, sixteen four,
sixteen four?
We wanna sell it, not rent it!
sixteen five
YES!!
Now sixteen five,
bring sixteen five
sixteen five is bid...
yup!
I HAVE SIXTEEN FIVE!
Sixteen five is bid
a***e is on at sixteen five
Reserve off, RESERVE OFF
RESERVE IS OFF!
He's gonna sell it!
BID TO BUY!!
d***t at sixteen four, you're out,
I have sixteen five,
sixteen five is bid,
sixteen five bid...
SIXTEEN FIVE IS BID!
S-I-X-T-E-E-N F-I-V-E?
Wake up WAKE UP, WAKE UP MISFITS! you're looking at tomorrow's Duesenberg,
selling, selling, selling, for sixteen five. Bid to buy!
You're looking at the Eldorado Brougham of the '80's, selling right now before your eyes for a paltry sixteen five. ... RESERVE IS OFF!
He's gonna sell.
better than money in the bank. You can't win if you don't bet.
Bet? This no bet... this is a sure investment...
Shootin' a fish in a barrel at sixteen five
Sixteen five
I have sixteen five....
lookin' for sixteen six
sweet sixteen...
Hold up, hold up, hold up,
Hold your bids.
Who? a***e at sixteen five?
a***e at sixteen five, did you register to bid?
Sorry a**e I can't take your bid.
You're out a***e, go check with the office.
Retraction, who?
n***n?
Why?
okay, you're out n***n
Your loss n***n
Guys, I'm trying to run a sale here. Get your ducks in a row before bidding.
Sorry bidders.
Where were we?
Sixteen three, sixteen three, I have sixteen three
sixteen three is bid...
sixteen three won't steal it
I have sixteen three, lookin' for sixteen four
sixteen three won't buy
sixteen four?..."
Ueahg, I wonder what the reserve is? :chin:
Doesn't look good for Pierre. :doh:
Looks like the sham bidders and backpedaling took the momentum out of it. :taz: :SoapBox:
Time to step up Fins.
:Muttley:
Quote from: Denrep on January 15, 2012, 11:48:36 PM
Doesn't look good for Pierre. :doh:
Ueahg, with four hours to go.
But he needs just a hunret dolla hit to sell.
Quote from: Denrep on January 15, 2012, 06:13:13 PM
"...I have sixteen three
sixteen three is bid
not enough at sixteen three
She's honey for the money
One owner and a two-toner
sixteen three won't buy
need sixteen four
sixteen three you're not in
Sixteen three, would'ya go sixteen four?
SIXTEEN Four?
sixteen four is bid!
Sixteen four I have!
I HAVE sixteen four!
sixteen three are you still in?
Sixteen three you're out
sixteen four, sixteen four is bid...
Not enough at sixteen four...
Sixteen four won't buy.
sixteen four, sixteen four,
sixteen four?
We wanna sell it, not rent it!
sixteen five
YES!!
Now sixteen five,
bring sixteen five
sixteen five is bid...
yup!
I HAVE SIXTEEN FIVE!
Sixteen five is bid
a***e is on at sixteen five
Reserve off, RESERVE OFF
RESERVE IS OFF!
He's gonna sell it!
BID TO BUY!!
d***t at sixteen four, you're out,
I have sixteen five,
sixteen five is bid,
sixteen five bid...
SIXTEEN FIVE IS BID!
S-I-X-T-E-E-N F-I-V-E?
Wake up WAKE UP, WAKE UP MISFITS! you're looking at tomorrow's Duesenberg,
selling, selling, selling, for sixteen five. Bid to buy!
You're looking at the Eldorado Brougham of the '80's, selling right now before your eyes for a paltry sixteen five. ... RESERVE IS OFF!
He's gonna sell.
better than money in the bank. You can't win if you don't bet.
Bet? This no bet... this is a sure investment...
Shootin' a fish in a barrel at sixteen five
Sixteen five
I have sixteen five....
lookin' for sixteen six
sweet sixteen...
Hold up, hold up, hold up,
Hold your bids.
Who? a***e at sixteen five?
a***e at sixteen five, did you register to bid?
Sorry a**e I can't take your bid.
You're out a***e, go check with the office.
Retraction, who?
n***n?
Why?
okay, you're out n***n
Your loss n***n
Guys, I'm trying to run a sale here. Get your ducks in a row before bidding.
Sorry bidders.
Where were we?
Sixteen three, sixteen three, I have sixteen three
sixteen three is bid...
sixteen three won't steal it
I have sixteen three, lookin' for sixteen four
sixteen three won't buy
sixteen four?..."
I'm impressed. I have neither the imagination or the patience to sit and type all that. "clap" I even tried reading it at the speed of an auctioneer (and failed).
And you talk to yourself on the board. :screwy:
I bloody wonder about you, mate............. :hi:
Quote from: Denrep on January 15, 2012, 11:48:36 PM
Doesn't look good for Pierre.
It looks like a car that a guy named Pierre would drive.
If he put a continental kit on it he could let his wife Lasagna drive it. :Muttley:
GJ