Cadillac Misfits

General Category => For Sale & Wanted => Topic started by: mose on May 10, 2022, 02:43:58 AM

Title: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: mose on May 10, 2022, 02:43:58 AM
I'm parting out an old 1969 coupe.  Body is rough, interior is junk.  But there's lots of good emblems, hard parts, switches, motors, glass, bumper ends, etc. 

Let me know if you know if you need anything.
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: classic cruiser on May 10, 2022, 12:25:42 PM
Does the clock work?
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: mose on May 10, 2022, 02:03:57 PM
Don't know.  I'll pull it out and put some power to it.
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: Otto Skorzeny on May 10, 2022, 02:12:50 PM
Those clocks usually are just filled with dirt, hair, lint, hardened grease, etc gunking up the works. If no gears are broken they usually start working after being cleaned.
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: Fins on May 11, 2022, 07:37:01 AM
Mose, get the map light bulb out of it. They are totally unobtanium anymore. That is the bulb that hooks onto the contacts with the wires. If it works, I'll PM you my new address.
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: Fins on May 11, 2022, 07:39:26 AM
There are a lot of AC parts that are near impossible to find but places like Old Air will rebuild the cores.

Amazing the stuff that we tossed that you can't get anymore. Even a POA core is worth $200 to a purist.
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: mose on May 11, 2022, 01:34:50 PM
Unfortunately the clock coil wire looks fried.  I'll see if I can fix it and clean the gears up.  Apparently it's rare to find these working; people seem to pay ridiculous $$ for clean working ones.

I'll look for map light.  I think the POA was gutted with the rest of the AC.  But make a list of other things you may want.
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: Fins on May 11, 2022, 06:18:09 PM
Oh, I don't want anything, ('cept maybe the light bulb) just making suggestions for things to get before you send it all off to the scrapper.
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: mose on May 12, 2022, 12:04:18 AM
No light bulb.  Sorry.

Clock works now, but the little 'kicker' solenoid doesn't seem to wind it all the way 'round.  Only lasts about 1 minute between kicks.  More testing needed.

Threw a cup of gas at it and it started right up!  Maybe I'll run compression on it to see what condition it's in before listing the engine.  It has an HEI on it;  It doesn't look factory and I thought those were mid 70's. 
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: classic cruiser on May 12, 2022, 11:32:57 AM
Points until 72 Does it have dual belts or single?
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: mose on May 12, 2022, 02:41:57 PM
Quote from: classic cruiser on May 12, 2022, 11:32:57 AM
Does it have dual belts or single?

Not sure I know.  AC has been removed so don't know the factory belt routing.  Belt from WP to ALT.  Belt from crank to PS.  Belt from crank to WP to air pump.

EDIT:  PS pump has a two-groove pulley
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: Fins on May 12, 2022, 09:58:11 PM
It's a 4 belt setup. Crank to AIR, to fan/WP. Fan to Alternator. Double belt, crank to P/S and A/C. Any A/C parts are toast if it's been open that long.

Thanks for peeking for the bulb!  :)
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: mose on May 14, 2022, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: mose on May 12, 2022, 12:04:18 AM
Clock works now, but the little 'kicker' solenoid doesn't seem to wind it all the way 'round.  Only lasts about 1 minute between kicks.  More testing needed.

More clock repair.  Lack of 'kick' was hopefully due to egged out pivot on the striker.  We'll see if it improves once I reassemble it.
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: Otto Skorzeny on May 15, 2022, 02:36:45 AM
Cool
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: Geoff on May 15, 2022, 11:34:03 PM
Quote from: classic cruiser on May 12, 2022, 11:32:57 AM
Points until 72 Does it have dual belts or single?
Points 'til sometime mid '73 model run.  Both my '73 Caribou and the parts car I bought for it had dual belts and points.  The Caribou ultimately got Pertronix ignition.
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: Fins on May 16, 2022, 08:29:10 AM
Points were retained until 1974 when HEI was offered as an option. Then about 1/4 of the way through the 1974 model year they went full HEI. I always found GM's HEI to be a dependable system that when grabbed in the wrong place at the wrong time would throw you right out from under the hood, you hoping not to hit your head on the secondary hood latch that was hanging down.  :curse:
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: classic cruiser on May 16, 2022, 12:24:22 PM
Quote from: Fins on May 16, 2022, 08:29:10 AM
Points were retained until 1974 when HEI was offered as an option. Then about 1/4 of the way through the 1974 model year they went full HEI. I always found GM's HEI to be a dependable system that when grabbed in the wrong place at the wrong time would throw you right out from under the hood, you hoping not to hit your head on the secondary hood latch that was hanging down.  :curse:
Thanks hard to remember which divisions went HEI first.
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: Otto Skorzeny on May 16, 2022, 10:56:12 PM
My '72 Monte Carlo had HEI.  Was that factory or did someone convert it before I got it?
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: Geoff on May 16, 2022, 11:28:58 PM
Quote from: Fins on May 16, 2022, 08:29:10 AM
Points were retained until 1974 when HEI was offered as an option. Then about 1/4 of the way through the 1974 model year they went full HEI. I always found GM's HEI to be a dependable system that when grabbed in the wrong place at the wrong time would throw you right out from under the hood, you hoping not to hit your head on the secondary hood latch that was hanging down.  :curse:
Yeah, guess it was the change from POA valve to VIR that occurred sometime during the '73 model year.
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: mose on May 19, 2022, 04:49:48 PM
I did finally figure out how to refurbish these clocks.  Coil wires usually burn out as a battery goes dead.  Fortunately they appear to burn at the end, not where they are wrapped (heat sink affect?).  And then the contacts can be replaced by soldering in contacts stolen from an old window, lock, horn, or Bosch relay.  Then a little clean up, blue paint for the inside, and cold galv on the outside. 

Pic is '69 and '66 clock.  Both have run flawlessly for a day and are within a minute or two.  They both have 'auto' adjusters; all you do is keep resetting the time each day if they are fast/slow and each reset adjusts the spring slightly in the proper direction.

Anyone have dead clocks they want looked at?  I suppose the '69 is now available.
Title: Re: Anyone need 1969 coupe parts?
Post by: Otto Skorzeny on May 19, 2022, 07:24:09 PM
That's pretty cool. I think the Packard must operate the same way. It kept falling behind and I kept/keep resetting it.  Now it's always within a couple minutes of actual time when I look at it.