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General Category => For Sale & Wanted => Topic started by: Keeper on December 22, 2010, 02:29:05 PM

Title: 8-Track
Post by: Keeper on December 22, 2010, 02:29:05 PM
Looks to have the tissue dispensor mounting.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CADILLAC-ELDORADO-RADIO-TAPE-1969-1970-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZYearQ3a1969Q7cModelQ3aEldoradoQQhashZitem3a6197aa7bQQitemZ250745432699QQptZVintageQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_835wt_962
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: guidematic on December 22, 2010, 03:01:22 PM

Good price so far. Let's see where it goes. I'll be watching this one.

Mike
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Fins on December 22, 2010, 03:18:46 PM
If that were my auction, I would have had that tape player looking like it was fresh out of the box from the factory.I would have had it tested to be sure it worked properly, then put it out there for all the money for one of these 'correcto' freaks to pay me dearly.

Instead it looks like it's been sitting in a car, in a junkyard, for the last 40 years.

He must have taken a marketing course at a public education facility.   :jack:

Fins

Well, you all said it was fun to pick apart the items.
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Keeper on December 22, 2010, 03:38:27 PM
What Fins says reminds me of a TRUE story,This happened to me!When I
worked for Duran Duran I had a 60 amp 6 outlet distro for the stage.I had
6 risers and 6 35' twistlock quadboxes,one for each.I give them to the stage
hand and show him the centre stage distro and tell him to run them to each riser;
he comes back to me fast and I look and he has the quads around the distro
and has run the male ends out to the risers. :censored:Anyhoo,I freak out
on the guy and ask "Is there a lead paint factory nearby?'He says real loud
to his buddy."Hey Steve,Do you know if there is a lead paint factory close
by?'I will never forget it and it really shows the avereage edumacation thats
out there!
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Fins on December 22, 2010, 04:09:15 PM
I just think there is no more common sense out there anymore. You have to lead these idiots by the hand and show them how to do anything.

Yesterday I was at my Mom's house. 3 kids she used to babysit for, were over with their Mother. All 3 have a private school education. The oldest (16) just set up a facility for the sports complex on the campus where they attend school. He designed and drew the plans, submitted them to the heads of the school, got them approved for funding, has submitted the plans to the county and city for permitting, and ground breaking started at the beginning of the month.

A 16 year old with a public education on average, can't read a sentence from a book, let alone spell properly, or annunciate his wording properly.

One of them is into Classical music and wants to attend 3 of the concerts on my schedule in the coming months. I'll gladly take him. These are young teens with adult minds. Dresses like men, well spoken and have a goal each in the world today.

Fins
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Carfreak on December 22, 2010, 04:19:24 PM
Quote from: Big Fins on December 22, 2010, 04:09:15 PM

I just think there is no more common sense out there anymore.

A 16 year old with a public education on average, can't read a sentence from a book, let alone spell properly, or annunciate his wording properly.

Fins

I'm guessing the 16 year old we encountered last night is a Democrat educated at a public school.  

The leader of our group, a no-nonsense Marine, caught the kid dead to rights - rock in hand, trying to carve his name or initials into the exterior surface of this beautiful 300 year old house in Greenfield Village.  It is the 2nd oldest home in the US, disassembled and imported from Cottswald area of UK in the 1920s by HF for Clara to have a place for her tea parties and this punk wanted to add his signature.  

Kid & mom were waiting to see / hear our group's display inside.  Of course, mom argued the generic 'not MY son'.  

You can guess the response they heard.   :SoapBox:
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: EZ on December 22, 2010, 05:38:02 PM
Quote from: Big Fins on December 22, 2010, 03:18:46 PM
If that were my auction, I would have had that tape player looking like it was fresh out of the box from the factory.I would have had it tested to be sure it worked properly, then put it out there for all the money for one of these 'correcto' freaks to pay me dearly.

Instead it looks like it's been sitting in a car, in a junkyard, for the last 40 years.

He must have taken a marketing course at a public education facility.   :jack:

Fins

Well, you all said it was fun to pick apart the items.

Man, I was about to post the same thing Fins.  What a moron, eh?   :bonk:
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Geoff on December 23, 2010, 02:20:01 AM
From the CLC Buy/Sell for sale by Perry B.  Believe it is for a '68, bet it is gone already.  
http://www.cadillaclasalleclub.org/forum/index.php/topic,111931.0.html

"Beautiful, correct, Delco "Cadillac" 8-track unit, guaranteed working condition - $260"

Geoff
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: guidematic on December 23, 2010, 05:14:27 AM

But we can see the diamond in this one. For $40 I can do a lot of cleaning and fixing.

Mike
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Tailfin Joe on December 24, 2010, 09:30:29 PM
 Does anyone have a picture of one these already mounted in the car? how about a picture of a tissue holder.
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: EZ on December 25, 2010, 08:52:39 PM
Quote from: guidematic on December 23, 2010, 05:14:27 AM
But we can see the diamond in this one. For $40 I can do a lot of cleaning and fixing.

Mike

You're ASSuming it even works.............you might end up with a really clean paper weight.
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Fins on December 25, 2010, 09:06:57 PM
That would depend on whether you know how to repair it or not. Personally, I would have no idea. Someone like Denrep or Thomas could have it up and running in an hour.

Fins
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: guidematic on December 26, 2010, 05:16:14 PM

For that money, I'd be willing to take a chance. And there are some thinbgs I can do with these things, generally the belts wear and break, and that's an easy fix.

Mike
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: guidematic on December 26, 2010, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: EZ on December 25, 2010, 08:52:39 PM
You're ASSuming it even works.............you might end up with a really clean paper weight.

What are you calling me?    :censored:

Mike
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: EZ on December 26, 2010, 06:40:13 PM
It was a typo!!!  :SoapBox:  Yeah, that's what it was...........a typo!!!   :devil:
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: guidematic on December 27, 2010, 03:44:48 PM

OK, I'll believe you. This time.  :yes:

Mike
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Tailfin Joe on December 27, 2010, 10:23:56 PM
 it went for 103.00 and some change. for your information.
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Carfreak on December 29, 2010, 01:06:32 AM
Olds version underdash 8-track player, circa 1967 (?)  
Was installed in my 1966 Toro when I got it mid-1980s
No pics of it installed
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Carfreak on December 29, 2010, 01:10:46 AM
Pontiac's monstrosity, 1967 or 68, forget which.  
Basically the same, supposedly some visual differences in the front panel.  
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Fins on December 29, 2010, 01:13:30 AM
Sure. Compare the pics. Stevie Wonder could see the differences.

Fins
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Carfreak on December 29, 2010, 01:18:16 AM
And the elusive (but dusty) NOS Caddy unit - - waiting if/when I ever get a 68 Eldo.  
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: guidematic on December 29, 2010, 01:50:35 PM

I was wondering that too. The Olds unit looks a lot like some of the early 4-track Chevy units I have seen. Delco made all the units the same internally. Each division did their own faceplate with it.

Was '71 not the first year that the integral AM/FM 8-track was available?

Mike
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Carfreak on December 29, 2010, 02:17:25 PM
Quote

It's difficult to improve on perfection, which may explain why the Toronado saw relatively little change through the end of the first generation in 1970. Even so, worthwhile improvements were made along the way. The 1967 edition was offered with two significant new options: front disc brakes and radial tires. The latter were especially welcome, as the 1966 had developed a reputation for eating its front tires. Mechanical changes were limited to new-style driveshaft joints and, to soften the ride, revised rear shock absorber rates and spring bushings.

The long, heavy doors had been criticized by some owners as cumbersome, so door-opening assist springs were added. New comfort and convenience options comprised AM/FM stereo radio with 8-track tape player, "Strato" front bucket seats and center console (which negated the value of the humpless front floor), and three-point seatbelts.


http://automotivemileposts.com/toronado/toronado1967optionalequipment.html

QuoteStereo Tape Player option (code U57) included rear speaker, and required one of the 3 optional radios be ordered, and the Heater delete was not available. The Stereo Tape Player had separate controls for Program, Balance, Volume, and Tone that were independent of the radio itself.
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: guidematic on December 29, 2010, 02:24:20 PM

So when did the era of the 4-track end and the 8-track begin? I only got into automotive sound systems in the late '70's when 8-tracks still ruled. But in all the '60's  cars I had any experience with had only AM radios. There wasn't much call for AM/FM since we really didn't have any FM stations in this locale until the mid '70's.

Mike
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Carfreak on December 29, 2010, 02:44:29 PM
MrMajstyk -

Did you ever figure out a solution to your 8-track wiring condundrum?  

Seen this guy on Fleabay who's offering new/repro wiring harness connections.

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/themrgrandprix/m.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A4390&rt=nc&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14.l1581&_pgn=2

Ebay seller:   themrgrandprix

REBLT 1968 CADILLAC 8 TRACK PLAYER 2 RADIO HARNESS 1967
8 TRACK TO 3 SPEAKER AM & AM/FM MONO RADIO

This is a  REMANUFACTURED 1968 CADILLAC 8 Track player to radio interface harness.  This will only work with 1967 and 1968 AM Wonderbar, and AM/FM MONO radios.    NOT for the 4 speaker stereo radio(see my other auctions for that harness).  This is needed to connect the 1968 under dash tape player to the radio correctly, and is usually cut off, damaged or missing.     All the wires, crimped  terminals are new.  All, and all plastic ends except the front speaker connector are NEW.  



He has other years wiring harnesses, dummy loads, also.
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Fins on December 29, 2010, 03:16:27 PM
Interesting that someone should make something like that, being pretty year specific. I wouldn't think there would be a lot of demand for such an item.

Fins
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Carfreak on December 29, 2010, 03:18:17 PM
As I note, he offers other years wiring harnesses also.  And being they are Delco, some will interchange between the GM models. 

This topic has been discussed @ the Mobo several times the past couple years.  I'd post it there, but they don't like my name.   :doh:
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: guidematic on December 29, 2010, 03:27:42 PM

The harnesses are easy to make. You only need the connectors and the old wiring for a pattern.

Mike
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Fins on December 29, 2010, 03:44:43 PM
I'm just noting that mostly only the purists would have a need for these items. Others like me, want the newest in sound systems. I love the SuperTuner III, I have.

Fins
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: guidematic on December 29, 2010, 03:54:51 PM

I certainly like the new systems too. But I also love the look and the sound of the old stuff. I'm keeping my AM/FM Wunderbar in the '70, but I really do have to upgrade the speakers. I have a new system that I will patch into the car, and store it in the glove box out of sight.

The search on the old radio is not sensitive enough, the AM band snaps and pops, so it needs some cleaning and adjusting. I have the manual, but for '69. Some things changed between '69 and '70.

Speaking of which, I was playing my new record player last night, and had it playing over the surround sound. It was simply marvelous. The old mixes with the new. It's really hard to quantify the supremity of the old vinyl over the new digital recording, but the fullness of the sound comes close to describing it.

Mike
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Carfreak on December 30, 2010, 08:21:07 PM
Quote from: Denrep on December 29, 2010, 01:31:51 AM

I'm sorta bummed that the '71+ won't take an under dash.

Good Luck

Have you considered trying to find an on-the-hump style?

Knew I had a couple more 8-track players stashed away in the attic; 'found' them when looking for something else today.

The blue one is marked '70 Pontiac but I wouldn't vouch 100% on that statement.  The brackets on the black one are a bit taller.  

Sorry about the dust.   :-[
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: guidematic on December 31, 2010, 04:59:12 AM

Looking at these pics, I'm wanting one even more now.

Mike
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Fins on December 31, 2010, 08:18:32 AM
The least you could do is get one without all the dusty prints all over it.

Fins
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Carfreak on December 31, 2010, 10:19:37 AM
Too bad you don't know someone who can do metal fabrication to make a custom mounting bracket for such a unit.   ;)
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: guidematic on December 31, 2010, 02:44:42 PM

I still have one of the in-dsh AM/FM 8-tracks. needs some cleaning and a belt, but it would fit right in where the Wunderbar is now.

I also have an oddball AM/FM/8-track/CB from an '82 Flewetwood. I just need the tri-band antenna to make the CB work.

I have collected some differant radios over the years. Among them an AM/FM that looks like it came from a mid 60's Pontiac and an mono AM/FM from a '75 Parisienne.

Mike
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Tailfin Joe on January 01, 2011, 03:37:25 AM
 I Will take a brand "X" 8 track just to confuse the "Y" generation!!
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: Tailfin Joe on January 01, 2011, 01:12:43 PM
  FWIW , theres another 8 track for sale 265.00 BIN on EBay 12/31/2010 ready to go with full 90 day warranty .
Title: Re: 8-Track
Post by: guidematic on January 01, 2011, 02:52:38 PM

Ouch!

Mike