I need one of these for my 1990 Brougham. The defroster works sporatically, and in this climate, the defroster is quite necessary. Anyone have one around, or know where one can be located? This one works on the 1990-92 Broughams.
Mike
Is the screen and controls behind it all one piece? How would one determine if it operated correctly before purchasing it? What would you expect to pay for one?
Stupid questions maybe. But that's still new enough to possibly be in a yard around here. Though doubtful. The scap business is booming here the way they drive. And a good hit easily puts a car beyond the value in repairs, so they total it.
Yes, it's like a plug in module.
I would hope that it would be tested before put on the shelf. What you would normally do when scrapping a car. That would be the only way top know for sure if it is OK. But then again, what is normal these days?
Dunno, just putting out my feelers on this one. I found one on Ebay, but there was no guarantee that it's in working condition. And the guy wanted almost $70 for it plus shipping.
If there was one in the wreckers around here, I would expect to pay $20 for it.
Mike
I have no idea what they do when they scrap a car. I haven't even been in a wrecking yard in over 25 years. Never a need to.
Quote from: Fins on December 29, 2013, 05:04:41 PM
I haven't even been in a wrecking yard in over 25 years.
Ueah, guess I wouldn't spend much time in FL wrecking yards either. Most that I've been to haven't been worth a darn.
Michigan has quite a few including one where the owner makes sure the aisles are kept clean and its always weed whipped around the cars.
Even if not looking for anything in particular, we enjoy walking through yards and seeing the variety vehicles in various conditions.
Looking forward to hitting a couple in Aridzona in a few weeks. I understand pretty much all from southern Phoenix are gone, 'neighborhood rehabilitation' but we'll find something to peruse.
I put a feeler out on a cadillac site that has a lot more of this generation enthusiasts.
You mean people still go that site? I thought that they chased everyone away or banned them.
Ueah, I got into an argument with some elitist clown there and never went back.
Mike
Got a lead on one.
Guy in Texas says there's a blue 90-92 at the wreckers near him that still has the complete dash, he'll check it out tomorrow.
Somewhere I've got reman unit but for older years.
Somewhere covers a lot of territory there.
Quote from: CarFreak on December 31, 2013, 01:55:28 AM
Somewhere I've got reman unit but for older years.
That's the one I need! A Delco Reman would be perfect.
Mike
Does that mean you have one?
Because I'll call off the guy in Texas if you do.
Dunno if she can find it.
Ueah, keep on the guy from Texas. Thanks Jon!
Mike
Do you know if these cars had optional defrosters? cause I was just thinking, a texas car may not have it if it wasn't standard.
And of course I am referring to the rear defroster.
Ahhhhh, I figured that out! I was sure Mike needed the windshield defroster control.
I'm not sure which one is busted on his. But I just read a webpage that listed the rear defogger as standard.
Quote from: guidematic on December 31, 2013, 02:16:48 AM
That's the one I need! A Delco Reman would be perfect.
Mike
Don't know if I ever shared how the time Mike was here several years ago, that was the day Pierce's slave cylinder decided to take a crap. This was a problem since we were driving him around to campaign when our friend was running for Township Treasurer against the Fire Chief's wife.
Quote from: Fins on December 31, 2013, 02:05:27 AM
Somewhere covers a lot of territory there.
Ueah, but sometimes I get lucky, like tonight, and the other half doesn't put it in a 'special place' never to be seen again. :P
Quote from: CarFreak on December 31, 2013, 01:55:28 AM
Somewhere I've got reman unit but for older years.
I was wrong - did some searching, looks like the unit, p/n 1227306 covers several years. Yes, yours? :crossfingers:
DEVILLE 85-90 w/Rr def
DEVILLE 91-93
FLEETWOOD 85-89 FWD, exc. Limo; w/Rr def
FLEETWOOD 90 FWD, w/Rr def
FLEETWOOD 91-93 FWD
Ident: 1226141
Ident: 1227138
Ident: 1227306
Ident: 16130399
Ident: 16139387
Ident: 88960917
We got it with a batch of other NOS late 80s early 90s parts from a closed down Cad/Olds dealer almost 20 years ago.
Been sitting around the barn ever since.
Have you ever found this website? http://workshop-manuals.com/cadillac/fleetwood_fwd/v8-273_4.5l/relays_and_modules/relays_and_modules_instrument_panel/fuel_distance/mileage_module/component_information/technical_service_bulletins/customer_interest/90318/ (http://workshop-manuals.com/cadillac/fleetwood_fwd/v8-273_4.5l/relays_and_modules/relays_and_modules_instrument_panel/fuel_distance/mileage_module/component_information/technical_service_bulletins/customer_interest/90318/)
I think they would have been standard by then.
Mike
Quote from: CarFreak on December 31, 2013, 03:17:41 AM
Quote from: CarFreak on December 31, 2013, 01:55:28 AM
Somewhere I've got reman unit but for older years.
I was wrong - did some searching, looks like the unit, p/n 1227306 covers several years. Yes, yours? :crossfingers:
DEVILLE 85-90 w/Rr def
DEVILLE 91-93
FLEETWOOD 85-89 FWD, exc. Limo; w/Rr def
FLEETWOOD 90 FWD, w/Rr def
FLEETWOOD 91-93 FWD
Ident: 1226141
Ident: 1227138
Ident: 1227306
Ident: 16130399
Ident: 16139387
Ident: 88960917
We got it with a batch of other NOS late 80s early 90s parts from a closed down Cad/Olds dealer almost 20 years ago.
Been sitting around the barn ever since.
The panel looks identical, however the listings don't match the car. 1990 RWD Brougham. Hmmmm.....
Mike
Quote from: guidematic on December 31, 2013, 03:32:39 AM
The panel looks identical, however the listings don't match the car. 1990 RWD Brougham. Hmmmm.....
Mike
Okay, so you are reading this the same way I am. >:(
So then, what IS the correct p/n?
I think I have a D-car parts manual here somewhere. I'll have a look see in the morning.
Mike
Cadillac Brougham Temp AC / Heat Control Switch Unit 1990-1992 OEM Part 16154876
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Cadillac-Brougham-Temp-AC-Heat-Control-Switch-Unit-1990-1992-OEM-Part-16154876-/281236289610?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1992|Model%3ABrougham&hash=item417afd384a&vxp=mtr
Cool. That saves me the look!
Mike
Rock Auto's listing for the unit I have. And another view. :-\
I looked on Rock Auto again, no listing for the Brougham.
Mike
Guy in texas said the place wants $30 for it. You'll need to add shipping to that. I told him to do it.
The worst that happen is you'll have an extra should another one come to be.
So presumably you can't use my Reman units, right? Bummer.
Guess I'll stash them back in the barn for another 20 years. :P
Quote from: CarFreak on January 01, 2014, 01:46:55 AM
So presumably you can't use my Reman units, right? Bummer.
Guess I'll stash them back in the barn for another 20 years. :P
You found it?
Two. But unfortunately it looks like they won't work on Mike's car.
Damn, I wish they would. They are to good ones.
Yes, go for it Jon!! Just let me know how much and where to send the $$. :rockon:
Now after all this, the bloody thing has been working flawlessly for the past couple of days.
Mike
When you get the new one in, see if it can be taken apart and all of the connections cleaned with contact cleaner. You like playing with that small stuff. It should be no problem for you.
I've got a spare control head for Chester (I might actually have two :confused2:). And I like the piece of mind of having it.
Ueah, and I think I have a spare laying about for the '87 as well. Those were used from 1980-85, and are a lot more common. I think they changed when the 307 became the standard engine in '86 and there it didn't have the OBD capabilities the previous ones did.
Mike
I wonder what would make the 86-89 units rarer.
And I thought the ht-4100 cars had a different climate control than the 368 and V864 cars.
Quote from: Fins on January 01, 2014, 03:50:54 PM
You like playing with that small stuff. It should be no problem for you.
:Muttley: