Looking. Want something that is already sorted out and ready to drive! Doesn't need anything more than occasional maintenance.
I like this one. Would like to see it in person. Love the 50s-early 60s pastels. Rare color and pictured in the 1960 brochure
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/cadillac/eldorado_biarritz/1729376.html
That's beautiful. They're asking about what I paid for my new house!
Why does the seller not say anything about this specific car? All he did was plagiarize some description of a 1960 Cadillac out of book.
Beautiful indeed, were I interested I would be on a flight to Indianapolis with a rental car waiting at the airport and be off to see that one!
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We had a long talk on the phone about the car. Condition is good. Curious about why it never had air. Good condition. Guy is meticulous. Engine, tranny rebuilt. New top. 7 year old Coker tires. Trim and hubcaps excellent. Jenkins white leather buckets, new carpets, All options work. Including Wonderbar radio. Hoping price is negotiable.
Never saw one this color before and another one has appeared. A survivor with 22k miles. I checked on this one and he paid (Holy Shit) $120k at Barret-Jackson. I'd say he overpaid!! Was recently on another auction site and topped out at $75k, reserve not met.
crossing the block at Mecum next week
https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/SC0515-213601/0/1960-Cadillac-Eldorado-Biarritz-Convertible/Automatic/
I'm suspicious of the 22K original mile claim on the second one. Has it been repainted? If it's truly an unmolested example, I take it as a plus over the restored example - all other things being equal. A price of $25k less is also appealing.
I prefer the white interior of the restored car, however.
Quote from: Otto Skorzeny on May 07, 2015, 09:44:53 PM
I'm suspicious of the 22K original mile claim on the second one. Has it been repainted? If it's truly an unmolested example, I take it as a plus over the restored example - all other things being equal. A price of $25k less is also appealing.
I prefer the white interior of the restored car, however.
The "22k car" I am also suspicious, did not make reserve with a $75k bid. While I find a survivor interesting. would rather have a car that has been driven a little more, and more rebuilt and I like the white interior better, also.
Just to make it fun, how about a 'relentless red' 1960 Biarritz, Just on appearance alone, which one do you like? This one has a recent repaint, trim not removed, Has new bags on the air ride, ac (not working) and cruise control. Air ride pumps up with a tire valve, not the original placement.
Personally, I hate bright red on most cars. No offense since I know you have two. The correct Mandan red looks better on a Cadillac.
I vote green solely on the color.
Bright red looks good on Model A roadsters and Model A pickups.
Quote from: Otto Skorzeny on May 07, 2015, 10:09:48 PM
Personally, I hate bright red on most cars. No offense since I know you have two. The correct Mandan red looks better on a Cadillac.
I vote green solely on the color.
Bright red looks good on Model A roadsters and Model A pickups.
No problem, Otto. I don't have a green car. I like the dark metallic green, but the Carrera has a cool charm. Never seen this color on a real car, so can't decide from pictures. Guess I should go see it!
Couple of more pics. The green car has a cool serene look. One person described the red car as Sophie Tucker and the green one as Grace Kelly. Besides as Otto said, I already have a red one. Somehow the red interior on the red car is too much. My wife, Anne, calls it "Relentless Red" I think she has a point.
:yeah baby: I'd take the green one, hands down --- and I have 2 red cars also. Let me know if I can drive the Eldo home for you! ;D
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Not to be mean and I'm sure I'll be lambasted for this, but of course it didn't meet reserve. It's a $50k car at the top end in #1 condition, no more. And I'm not saying this because I had one, but a 60 will NEVER be worth what a lesser 59 will bring.
Bill, put your money into what you already have and make them pristine. Just my humble opinion, that's all.
Quote from: Fins on May 07, 2015, 11:22:53 PM
Not to be mean and I'm sure I'll be lambasted for this, but of course it didn't meet reserve. It's a $50k car at the top end in #1 condition, no more. And I'm not saying this because I had one, but a 60 will NEVER be worth what a lesser 59 will bring.
Bill, put your money into what you already have and make them pristine. Just my humble opinion, that's all.
Fins, I would love to see a '59 or a '60 Biarritz sorted out #2 car for less than $75k. Please show me one for $50k! Not lambasting, just haven't seen one.
I have someone, I think, who will work on my cars and bring them into pristine shape. He is the first person to get several things nicely fixed on my 2001 Eldorado. If he can work on the old cars, I'll be happy. The last guy did more damage than good,
It is less a matter of money than having competent help.
To answer the edit on the post containing the pictures...
Hell yes, I'd rather have the green car. Simply on color alone. Red cars scream Look at me, Look at me. Sorry Geoff. No intent there.
But yes, I've never seen a Biarritz in that color. Just the usual parade, black, white, pink, persian sand, etc...
Go into ebay. Maybe not the best choice of price trends, but log in and do your searching, but do it under Completed Items. This will give you all of the more recent sales of the specific vehicle you are looking at. A 60 will almost always bring in 30%-50% less than a 59, depending on condition. Did I do a recent search? No. But I was pricing the market when I sold mine and trying to decide what to accept for it.
You will do what you want Bill. I listen to people, some I listen to harder, but in the end, I still do what I want. I just may factor in the knowledge that others have given me in making that decision.
What kind of idiot paints an engine in a supposed $100K car Ford blue? That's just plain stupid. Did you call him on it?
That's why I prefer an unmolested original to a so-called restored car. Engines allegedly rebuilt are often slapped together by dopes who may have a vague idea how to rebuild a 350 Chevy but are unaware of the 365's quirks.
So, Bill, it looks like you bought the green '60 Eldo!!! Congratulations! :clap: :banana:
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Unless you know something we don't, I read where he passed on it because they couldn't agree on a price.
I haven't checked MoBo or MCLC yet.
From the MoBo ---
Offline Bill Caddyshack
Posts: 282
Atlanta Georgia
Name: J Marsh
Re: WTB 1960 Biarritz in excellent condition
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 06:30:53 PM »
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Thanks for the replies. Found one in Indianapolis. Carrera green, white buckets, great shape. Flew up, saw it personally. Had two very knowledgeable Cadillac friends, who were at the Mecum Auction look at it with me. Very good car. Got very lucky with transport and a carrier loaded with Mecum cars, and mine left Indy last night and should be in Atlanta today!
Factory datatag shows correct info. New top, rebuilt engine/trans, recent Jenkins interior, everything works.
I was spurred on by your post Geoff, and took a look. Thanks.
Yes, meant to make a post here, but got sidetracked, doing a little driving! It is a sweet car.
Back and forth with the seller, but we finally reached an agreeable sum.
A lot of carriers leaving Mecum Indianapolis and was able to get the last place on one heading south yesterday, Friday. Rolled up about 3:00pm today. Lots of squealing from the Mrs. We went for a cruise.
Lime Sherbet? Key Lime? Anne still searching for names. It is a sophisticated color and style after the in-your-face 1959. I think it is the 1960 Grace Kelly to the 1959 Sophia Loren.
Seller says,
"*94,000 Miles
*Carrara Green with white Jenkins leather interior, Rare Bucket Seats
*Power Steering, Power Vent & all Windows, Power Brakes, Power Trunk opener & closer, Power Radio Antenna
*Rebuilt 390 cu in motor with tri- power ( 3 2bbl carburetors), Rebuilt transmission
*New shocks and springs, New brake drums and shoes, New Gas Tank and sending unit
*New Coker wide whitewall radial tires, New power convertible top, New carpet, New Heater Box
This car is well sorted out. I have owned the car since January 2008. All service and refurbishing records are available since January 2008." All this and more checks out well.
Seller is a really nice guy. Very well-to-do. In the family produce business that has been a major player for the last 90 years. He took very good care of this car. Put about 5,000 miles on it since 2008.
Congratulations Bill, the car is beautiful. :yeah baby:
This color featured in the 1960 brochure
It almost looks like money green to me.
I'd get a plate for the front that say's,
"Big"
"Money"
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Quote from: Fins on May 17, 2015, 10:59:22 AM
It almost looks like money green to me.
I'd get a plate for the front that say's,
"Big"
"Money"
:Muttley:
GREAT IDEA!!!!
It just sorta fits Bill, the car and the color. I'm not a person for green, but that is very pleasing to the eyes.
Quote from: Fins on May 17, 2015, 02:28:51 PM
It just sorta fits Bill, the car and the color. I'm not a person for green, but that is very pleasing to the eyes.
Money is my favorite color! Just ordered this.
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Love it. :yes: :banana: